Pass SC, collect 3 credits and proceed to HSC

School Certificate students having brilliantly passed in all of the papers have most probably no reason to worry. But for those who performed less well, many among them will need to take a critical decision :

  • Repeat the whole year or
  • move forward with the existing results although not satisfactory or
  • perhaps move to the next class level but sit for the GCE exams or even the same one again.

The government’s decision…

Earlier today, I heard that as from this year, any student with only 3 credits will be allowed to pursue to the next class, that is, A-Level. Previously, students needed at least 5 credits to be able to do so.

As far as I know, a big majority of courses and vacancies (including governmental ones) require at least 5 credits at O-level. I fail to understand why the government is so keen on producing so many school leavers at the expense of a good quality/standard of education. In this same vision, the same government is also aiming at producing at least one graduate per household.

To do what? Sit unemployed at home because of

  • the limited and saturated job market and
  • the mediocre results?

IMHO, sit for the papers again and secure your future. If you are not the bookish and nerd type, invest into a proper training/course and be among the best in what you are good at!

Remember, life is like a race! If you don’t run fast you will be a broken andaa (egg)!

Quote from the bollywood movie, 3 Idiots. 

 

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  • Do you think the advice applies equally to boys and girls? I think girls can move one.

    If they manage to get a modest A level, won’t the O certificate become as if void?

  • Vicks

    Ministe ek so ban conseiller 6eme fail… ki decision to ti laie li prend..
    li pe banalise sa ban examen la.. ek zotte pou nepli ena valeur aster..  soon mem to pou fail HSC ousi to pou gagne rentre dans universiT.. ek who knows labas.. mem si to fail ousi.. to pou gagne degree..

    to pou gagne certificate of attendance dans ene undergraduate course!!!

    Mo penC ti bizin fer le contraire ek fer li vine plis difficile..  si kikun pas ine fer pou suivre ene cours academic.. bein li pas fer.. pas letemps couma dire line fini fer ene degree.. ki pou realiser weii.. li pena seki bizin pou li paC ek gagne ene travay.. pas letemps ine depense tousa cash la lor li.. ki pou trouve sa.. si kikun pas bon.. soi li catch up bonheur mem.. soi li try something else..

    aulieu fer sipa 5000 informaticien ki pou plaKe sans travay.. essay valorise ban different profession ek fer ene maniere ki zotte gagne ene salaire ki corek.. cot to dimoune pas pou  obliger vine docteur, informaticien ou professeur dans sa pays la pou gagne ene largent corek pou vivre..

  • The hurdle is set too low for entering into HSC. I’d suggest that the hurdle be lowered at CPE level, then raise it progressively as the children’s maturity increase to understand the influence of their actions on their future.

    Students obtaining more than 21 units at SC should be directed to vocational / technical paths (hey, you become a wage earner as soon as you finish technical courses, with salaries above 15,000 at the onset!), while those between 18 and 21 should receive proper career guidance so as to avert choosing a path that will not satisfy them.

    All in all, career guidance is a must at form III itself, this is why we have so many frustrated students everywhere, ending up in places of employment where they develop that ‘in transit’ / opportunist / batt-batté attitude that reflects very bad on them…

  • Bhooks

    Once there was a HSC Laureate from St Mary’s who got an aggregate of 19 at S.C. You are out of order here mate

  • Bhooks

    3 Credits. pfff. That’s bullshit. No way they get an HSC with 3 credits at SC. Some will do it, most will fail, Instead they could have been redirected to technical schools.  Seki komik ladan zot p lower pass mark ek percentage pass pa p ogmante. Al tir konklizyon ki bizin tire.

  • leomaster

    I can’t see light at the end of the tunnel. With 3 credit in hand, someone pursue the “A”level and brilliantly passed the exam. So far so good. Then what next, when he/she reach the job market and it ask 5 credit at “0” level, who’s going to be blamed. I suggest that if 3 credit is acceptable to move on to HSC then vacancy at PSC also needs to change it criteria from 5 credit to 3. 

  • sorry but i disagree with you on these ideas

  • well we are simply accelerating our dark days. In 7-10years time we will face with extreme unemployment. large pool of graduates and lack of job opportunities, i bet if anyone can see a bright future ahead. 

  • Inf

    The complete education system is a major fail in Mauritius. Killing kids with tuition at CPE level, then after all the effort, they get to HSC without major trouble with only 3 credits?

    Nah. I say CPE be abolished. Students are automatically allocated a college in their region. What about star schools?! Everybody wants one of those. Then teachers should be shuffled around in their region every 5 years so they don’t stay at the same college forever.

    E.g. if a teacher works in a college in PL, he/she gets cycled around the colleges in PL and nearby regions every 5 years.

    Then raise the standards for SC and make it a big higher for HSC, so that students are motivated to work.

    UoM admission standards now are ridiculously low. People are getting in highly technical courses with epically bad results and end a 3 year course knowing virtually nothing and achieving a “pass” through learning by heart. Is that how Mauritius wants its engineers / scientists / managers etc?

    UoM should increase its admission standards to what they were before E.g. you don’t get to do Engineering/Science for e.g. unless you have at least 3 B’s, with 1A,2B being the norm to get in. “Democratizing education” yes, but not at the cost of performance and achievements. Create specialist schools or at least tiered-systems based on results. What’s the point of filling up the Unis with students who cannot understand what they’re doing?

    And what do I hear? Scholarship systems will be changed? Hah! Way to kill incentive for students to work! You think UoM / UTM can accommodate the brightest of students? You tell me! 😀

  • Bhavna Wonders

    Mo pa kone si zo’nn remarke ki sa 2 dernie lane la nivo bann zelev inn byen bese. Si govt pa fer sa sistem en couyonad la , bokou kolez pa pou ena zelev an HSC. Sirtou zot pa anvi ogmant zot to esek. Mo 1 prof de lang dan kolez e mo travay esansielman ek ban HSC. Li byen tris kan mo trouv bann zanfan ek 3 credits dan mo clas ek ki pe gayn bokou difikilte adapte. Apre Lower 6 kan bokou parmi zot fel, zot dekouraze e kit lekol. Si sa mem zanfan la ti pou refer li ti pou kav gagn 1 meyer rezilta e li pa ti pou gayn problem adapte. Fransman, mo kont sa sistem la, parski premierman li ape donn fos lespwar bann zanfan la et an mem tan li ape bes nivo. Pli sagrinan ladan se ki , kan sa bann zelev la pou al rod travay zot pou tase. Se enn patetism ekstraordiner !! 

    Note : Je me suis exprimEe en langue Kreol, pour ceux qui n’arrivent pas a saisir le contenu. 😉

  • Inf

    I don’t about others but I had loads of trouble trying to understand what you wrote…

    Imho, creole written using french words is easier to understand than that. Why “Li byen tris” when “li bien triste” seems easier to read for me? Our creole is based off french, there is no shame in using French words, right? Nothing against your writing btw! Last e.g. “dekouraze” – “decourage”?

  • Faisal

    It’s only to make the Government look good when it comes to statistics. Rubbish policy! 

  • Akhil Ramlugun

    Why write Mauritian Creole using French words now that quite a few dictionaries of Mauritian Creole do exist? If one wants to write in Mauritian Creole, he/she has to learn the spelling of the words instead of writing it with whatever spelling comes into his/her mind.

    But that even is a pretty bad idea since Mauritians are not used to read Mauritian Creole and doing so would always be a pain in the ass for them even with good spelling.

  • Akhil Ramlugun

    The government
    instead of opening more universities and lowering entry requirements should have
    the courses proposed by the universities diversified. All they currently offer
    are traditional very demanding courses and in order to give everyone the chance
    to pursue tertiary studies they enrol even the students with average-to-poor
    HSC results into these courses which, I repeat, are very demanding, that is,
    they are not suitable for everyone.

    We need to be realistic: the whole education system cannot be remodelled but
    the tertiary education system can and urgently should.

     

    The government
    needs to have foreign institutes that offer courses which are currently
    unavailable in the country open a branch in Mauritius. These courses would be
    less demanding, more familiar to the personality/interests of the students and
    would allow them to work later on earning a decent salary after having learnt
    decently. I am hereby talking about courses relating to pets (veterinarian, dog
    trainer), to music, sports, mechanics, tailoring, agriculture, drawing, arts,
    interior designer/landscape designer, among many others.

     

    The MITD (ex-IVTB)
    centres need to be closed down. People feel just too ashamed to attend training
    over there. Oh yes, coming to that, Mauritians need to become more modern in
    terms of their mindset: do not hesitate to have a study/have a career in what
    you like; do not be obsessed by the highest-earning/most prestigious jobs; stop
    comparing yourself to others on the professional aspect. It might seem
    unrealistic to offer a dog training course in Mauritius
    but it was also the case long ago in, for example, France where today these professionals
    are much sought after and are well paid and there are baccalaureate-holders who
    do want to become that later on.

     

    We cannot become a
    modern society if everyone will run after the most prestigious jobs engaging
    into an aggressive race like in primitive times. We need to have a proper
    distribution of courses, proper distribution of job opportunities and proper “distribution
    of ambitions”. Else we will end up having one side an excess of people with great
    qualifications, a majority of which will be unemployed and among the employed
    ones, many who are unhappy. On the other side, we will have uneducated craftsmen
    (“soudeur”, “mécanicien”, “macon”)
    who will be everlastingly uneducated and unqualified and thus much probably unhappy
    as well. And in the middle, we will have nothing instead of the variety of
    other less-know-to-Mauritians jobs that complete the making of a modern society.
    It will simply be an unbalanced, defective society with a lot of unhappy

     

    Those who watched the
    M6 report would perhaps remember the part when the son of the expatriate French
    cook said something like that: “Je ne compte pas étudier a Maurice après mon bac, il n’y
    a rien de passionnant ici.”

     

    Check this out and
    you’ll understand why he said that:

    http://www.letudiant.fr/recherche-metiers.html?letter=0

     

    That guy is going
    to do just the job he likes, but unfortunately Mauritius cannot give him the
    necessary training for that. Whatever it is that he likes, after checking out
    this list, you would surely conclude that France can give him the necessary
    training.

     

    I would stop here
    resuming all I have said: the tertiary education needs to be reformed (by significantly
    diversifying the courses offered) AND we need to change the mindset of the
    Mauritian society when it comes to profession.

  • Bhavna Wonders

    To Inf & Akhil Ramlugun, Je comprends vos difficultEs a saisir le contenu. C’est totalement comprEhensible. Toutefois j’aimerais apporter quelques rectifications car j’ai remarquE que vous ne savais pas trop de quoi vous parler quand vous dites ” there is no shame in using French words, right?” ou meme “he/she has to learn the spelling of the words instead of writing it with whatever spelling comes into his/her mind.”.

    Notez que je me suis exprimEe en langue Kreol , c’est-a-dire que c’est la graphie officielle de cette langue. Il n’y a aucun erreur.  Et je sais de quoi je parle car etant etudiante de la linguistique il y a 2 ans et comme j’etais parmi le groupe de recherche pour le Diksioner Kreol , la question de la honte ne se pose pas, surtout, je n’ecris pas “with whatever spelling comes into [my] mind.”

    En passant , la gaphie est basEe sur l’aspect phonEtique. Bon, je ne suis pas la pour faire un cours sur cette langue. Je voulais juste apporter quelques prEcisions. De toute facon, il ne s’agit pas d’un dEbat sur la langue kreol. Mais je suis contente d’avoir des personnes comme vous qui posent des questions assez pertinentes. Merci beaucoup chers amis , car vos arguments je les comprends.

    Si vous avez d’autres questions n’hesitez pas !

  • Souchkiki

    I agree With you!
    It should change the system by far!

  • Inf

    Note, I never said you made a mistake when writing the Creole above. I know that’s how it’s written officially. As you said, I also happen to know that the language is based on phonetics.

    However, I find it pointless to re-invent spellings of words when we already have these exact words in French. This will probably lead to complications for people trying to learn both Creole and French at the same time, namely 10 year old kids who are already overloaded with exams.

    I am neutral regarding the debate about introducing Creole as a language. I just don’t understand why, since our Creole is a derivative of French, we choose to use different spelling than French words. Is it just to show the language is “unique”? It is definitely not.

    A simple example would be the name itself. Can someone please tell me why “Kreol” when in English: “Creole” and French: “Créole”. Phonetics aside, does “Kreol” make sense in this context? Should I understand that the phonetics of French or English was incorrect for us Mauritians to correct it?

    I agree with the proposal to standardise the language. I disagree when in doing so, the language is made more complex. There is a difference between what people use and what experts think is right.

  • LoL

    to malade!! tell us more about your results and actual job?

  • “li ape donn fos lespwar bann zanfan la et an mem tan li ape bes nivo”

    Samem ki apel mett soulié avan sosett ha! Ou’nn bien remarké ki nivo sé-pé-é inn ogmanté (lév barryérr), ek apré béss nivo l’entré dan éch-éss-si (béss barryérr). Exactéman l’inverss ki ti bizin ferr dan enn sosyété ki promouvoir “l’égalité des chances”.

  • Mwa-oussi mo ti contan ékrir kréol en se servant de la graphie francaise, mais le probleme vient du fait que la prononciation en souffrait et pervertissait le sens voulu. Exemple: comment prononceriez vous “de toute maniére” en kréol? Je préferre écrire comme je le dis dans la réalité: “dé toutt manyérr”.

    Mo kwar ki ou’nn compran: mo pa enn snob, ek mo pa-lé ki dumonn kweurr ku mo eunn feuss-nwérr ki peu deukleurr freunssé… 😀 Samajh gaylann, nan?
    Mo éspéré ki astérr ou vréman konpran ki pa pé rodd ré-inventt la-rou, konpran ki “peu importe” langaz ki’nn servi, se contenu ki plis importan
    ki tou – eski enn program ki’n ekrir en Java allemand inféryérr á Java
    anglé, ou bien se so fonctionalité (“end-use”) ki pli importan?

    Alorss,
    ti-a bon ki bann fantasm lingwistick ki lezott rod impozé mor par zott-mem, ek nou eséiy aprécié zéfor tou dimoun ki contan exprim-li dan so lang
    maternel.

    De toute maniére, j’aime abuser de la liberté de graphie de
    la langue, sans que j’aie á l’imposer á tout le monde… 😀

  • Mwa-oussi mo ti contan ékrir kréol en se servant de la graphie francaise, mais le probleme vient du fait que la prononciation en souffrait et pervertissait le sens voulu. Exemple: comment prononceriez vous “de toute maniére” en kréol? Je préferre écrire comme je le dis dans la réalité: “dé toutt manyérr”.

    Mo kwar ki ou’nn compran: mo pa enn snob, ek mo pa-lé ki dumonn kweurr ku mo eunn feuss-nwérr ki peu deukleurr freunssé… 😀 Samajh gaylann, nan?
    Mo éspéré ki astérr ou vréman konpran ki pa pé rodd ré-inventt la-rou, konpran ki “peu importe” langaz ki’nn servi, se contenu ki plis importan
    ki tou – eski enn program ki’n ekrir en Java allemand inféryérr á Java
    anglé, ou bien se so fonctionalité (“end-use”) ki pli importan?

    Alorss,
    ti-a bon ki bann fantasm lingwistick ki lezott rod impozé mor par zott-mem, ek nou eséiy aprécié zéfor tou dimoun ki contan exprim-li dan so lang
    maternel.

    De toute maniére, j’aime abuser de la liberté de graphie de
    la langue, sans que j’aie á l’imposer á tout le monde… 😀

  • Generally to all, and especially you three, I just remind you that I’m a parent too. I am very conscious that this system is harsh with the unlucky ones, and that it grinds the average ones and only a happy few (one third at CPE, half of SC and one third of HSC) go through that infernal process unscarred.

     – Bhooks:
    A mind is a terrible thing to waste. That’s why I’m convinced that no-one should be prevented from pursuing studies, Sir.

    Yashvin’s way of saying things was also wholly misinterpreted here:

    http://www.yashvinblogs.com/accident-champs-de-mars/

    Just because the driver happened to be female was interpreted as Yashvin being a male chauvinistic…

    Your reflex-reply to my post also presumes that I was inclined ot think that anyone with
    less-than-average SC results should be barred from HSC and whatever
    courses that depend on these.

    Please, I conjure you, read again.

    I was suggesting vocational / training streams and career guidance to
    those who did not provide the ‘best’ (read ‘most comfortable’) route to
    HSC. Like in UK, where my emigrated cousin initially went through the
    vocational stream before finally emerging at the ‘end’ of her academic
    itinerary with a masters in clinical psychology… Not in my mind: enn
    poubel ki’nn ferr pou tou bann recalés CPE, SC ek HSC.

    Your (and others’) promptitude to jumping to an unfair conclusion about
    me – man, look at my previous posts: do I look like an elitist /
    extremist thug or something? – shows the same problem that plagues
    Mauritius these
    days: people who apparently suffer from the same allergy to logic,
    askew-reading what has been written and making wrong assumptions on that
    incorrect, skewed reading.

    Here’s another way of seeing this:  So this person has had the infortune of going through the ordeal of
    losing a parent at a very untimely period of her life, and her misery is being compounded by a rigid
    interpretation of the law preventing her from trying to achieve her potential.

    Another one who went beyond psychological stigmas attached to neuro-motor degenerative conditions – he even authored music!!

    And now match it with our know-all PM who said that “bizin kass baryérr” in a not so distant past, while keeping in his team people who are nourishing a fantasm about keeping barriers between the A+ and the “bêtes”.

    If I am out of order, mate, how far out is this man?

     – Reetesh Nirvan Toolsy
    No, you should not be sorry for anything: qui s’excuse s’accuse, some say.
    You just read it wrong. Read again, and read well.
    You’ll not be sorry then.

     – LOL
    “to malade!! tell us more about your results and actual job? ”
    I don’t normally answer constipated trolls who can’t give a proper argument, but if attacking me personally, then, for sake of completeness this is my reply to all her/his questions:
     – malade: non, mo température corporelle parett normal, 37.8 deg mo pa kwar. Mem si mo pa doktérr pou al prett serman dan la-cour ek certifié lor papyé.
     – my results: Pff… Astérr eski bizin certifika akademic pou capav émétt enn lopinion ek analiz?? Bon, si ha ferr ou plézir: mo’nn gagn boukou la-sanss koutt-floukk pou pass sé-pé-éh, pass éss-si, pass éch-éss-si, pass terminal allianss frenséz , pass bi-enj-honss-sivil-énnjiniringg, ek (hopefully will this year) pass ém-bi-éh.
     – actual job: very difficult to explain in one sentence. The analogy to ethical hackers is most relevant: some organisations pay people to detect flaws in their systems, I do just that, but in engineering contracts. Some of the effects can be seen here:
    Sachisfé, ma chére?
    Si non, ou ki ou été ou pou vinn poz toutt sortt kalité/kantité kestion: sortt dépi anonima, vinn dirr ki ou ou été pou vinn ziss crié ek kritiké ki tou pa bon, mé péna nargnié pou proposé.
    Ayez le courage de vos opinions. Celà libère…

  • aNONymouS

    Akash, I understand your point and I certainly appreciate your comments. However, I think they (apart from LoL) are not saying that you implied that raising the hurdle means barring others to do HSC. They disagree with your threshold of 18 being too high! Yes, I know you said that those between 18-21 should receive proper career guidance and so on and that those with 21+ should go through a vocational training.

    Just like you, I do not usually rant about my achievement (hence my reply under the pseudonym aNONymouS). I too am a father and do not wish my children to go through this terrible system. I would like to point out also that I did not go to a star school and many of my friends who had 21+ units, managed to finish their degree at the University of Mauritius. A good proportion then pursued their Masters in UK universities, namely Kings and Imperial. If it was the case that the should have gone through this vocational system you are proposing, they would be lecturers or senior consultants in multinational companies abroad. Sure, they would have had the capacity but their perceived capacity, by them and society, would not be as high and thus would eventually discourage them to achieve as they have achieved today. You should lower the hurdle, that’s what I believe these two have said.

    I would probably be classed within, the 18-21 category. Interesting note about the career path options but in full honesty, with such a dynamic global economy, with Mauritius being part of it, it is difficult to advise students which path to take. Again, it would have been a hurdle and probably would not have been practical anyway. We should note on the number of students completing SC! I believe the system should educate the students to take on their own decisions by thus make them independent – whether they pass or fail (I had a teacher who told me rather a pupil getting an E and he knows why he got it and how he can improve than the one who gets an A+ and does not have a clue why!). Careers guidance then would honestly not have helped me and many of my friends. I did not get a scholarship in Mauritius but I certainly got my first Masters in Engineering, at a University which was ranked in the top 5 in the UK in Engineering and 1st in Europe in Radio engineering, fully funded, including lodging and living by the UK Government. I went on to work for Lucent Technologies, the company which owned Bell Labs, as a mobile network designer and consultant. My point being, career guidance could have easily led me and my friends within your suggested threshold astray. 

    Now my friend, I appreciate the suggestions you have provided and I am simply pointing out that I disagree with your proposed threshold. I am not bashing you because after-all we are adults and do not resort to cheap arguments. Take it as a debate and not a personal attack.

    However, one person at least who would need vocational training, or probably rehab, would be LoL.

    Otherwise, I hope I have contributed to this discussion.

  • Tsulebaikhan

     moi mo fer marchand poisson ek mo HSC ki mo ena la

  • w
    0
    w

    Pran gagné papi, mé épargn moi sa déluge de auto-promo la enkor, par pitié…

  • Yu Dish

    le gov. tro zouE r system leducation a morice et sa ena limpact lor zleve ek osi les autres personnes concernE!9yr schooling-abolition system ranking – re mett system star school- form3 national exam- 1diplomE par famiy- 3credits pu monte en lower et puis kan rentr dan marchE travail soi liena so backing soi zelev la souker pu ggn ene boulot convenable

  • reenadkl

    I think the system should change from the Primary Level… Not wait when it’s SC or HSC. I don’t agree with the 3 credits-HSC entry thing… I don’t believe in the rat race but then we cannot have people not to the level becoming engineer and we know what happens then :/ THOUGH it’s kind of tricky: Some might be real bad at the SC/HSC level but excel later after..that is why I believe we need to change the system..we need more assessments instead of BIG exams…well, my point of view…